Another Article

Free access to scriptures religious leaders try to censor

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2006/08/08/israels-attack-was-premeditated/#more-1000

This one looks reasonably objective to me.

It would be interesting to see what sort of “Prisoner of War” Hezbollah want to free. As far as I know, they try to free a fighter that fight during peace rather than war, and hence should be classified as terrorists or criminals rather than Prisoner of War.

Israel agreed to release some terrorists in exchange or Ron Aran. Ron was a pilot that attacked Lebanon also during peace time.

That’s not helpful. Why kill civilians and free terrorists? Civilians have no bargaining position for their release while terrorists have.

What We Can Learn from Lebanon Israel Conflict

Thousands would march to oppose death penalty. Even Israel abolishes death penalty. When someone murder, kill, burglarize, rob, rape, flay, torture, whatever, that person must not die. Politicians will come up with thousands of reasons why it’s bad to kill bad guy.

Let me try to paraphrase it.

Say you have a beautiful 14 years old daughter. Say someone break into your apartment. Rob you all your wealth. Rape your daughter. Flay her alive. Slowly killing her for 6 months.

Say a miracle happens. Say God himself interferes. Say Jesus come from heaven to earth, videotapes everything, and give the tape to Mossad.

Say an even bigger miracle happens. Say someone in Israel governments think that the case worth investigating.

Now the asshole is brought to jail. Will he get death penalty? Here’s a hint. No. Will Samir Kuntar get death penalty. No. In fact, his accomplice, Ahmed Abarrass, is freed. Yap. You read me. Freed. That guy murder 4 Israel civilians. He’s a free man, drinking beer and sleeping with women now among the crowds worshipping him as hero.

Sniff sniff. That’s pretty touchy. Israel governments must be a really benevolent government choosing not to harm even such a monster.

Ah… I am making this up. The first is just theory. The second is unsual circumstances.

So here is another example:

Kozo Okamoto was one of the members involved in the attack on the Israeli Lod airport, now Ben Gurion International Airport, in 1972. He was jailed in Israel following the Tel Aviv airport attack. In May 1985, Okamoto was freed in an exchange of prisoners between Israeli and Palestinian forces. Subsequently, he was imprisoned in Lebanon for three years for forging visas and passports. The Lebanese authorities granted Okamoto asylum in 1999 because he fought against Israel.

I know, prisoners exchange, have some uses. However, most Lebanese would be much more pleased if Israel chooses not to attack their country even if that means not freeing some murderers. No international condemnation would come from condemning a violent terrorist to death.

What sorts of governments, including Israel governments, kill then?

Take a look at this:

http://stopdestroyinglebanon.com/WarOnLebanon/nfblog/?page_id=3

Yet, those same politicians would come up with thousands of reasons why thousands of businessmen must die.

Lebanon economy is a free market economy. It’s a rare country that gets rich mainly from doing things right rather than from oil or war. It’s just like the Jews used to be in Europe. And that’s also why they are whacked.

We have the Nazi, the communists, etc. etc.

Virtually all governments kill way more successful peaceful businessmen than assholes.

That’s another sample how humans’ instinctive natures and emotions are geared to kill the peaceful and successful.

What do you think?

Jim
NB: I thought the Jews were different. I was wrong. Well, welcome to the club then. It’ll give a whole new meaning of being human isn’t it?

I Am Very Dissapointed with Israel

I am not against Israel. To the opposite, I used to admire them.

There are so few Jews that contribute so much to our world and the world repay them with genocide.

They want a piece of land they call home. Given that they’re prosecuted everywhere else, we can certainly tolerate that.

Yea, Israel has a slightly racist immigration laws. However, many countries, like Arab Saudi also discriminates based on religion.

Not only that, all of our ancestors gets their land through bloodshed. These Jews, at first try to buy their land.

So yea, I admired Israel. At least I used to.

You see, in Arab-Israel conflicts, there used to be many reasons to side with Israel. Those reasons no longer exist.

In my opinion, for example, Arabs and often Muslims are harder to appease than the Jews. In my countries there are plenty of religious extremists demanding so many laws against individual freedom. More over, I cannot understand why anyone would be angry over cartoons. If people can get angry over cartoons, we’ll never know what pissed them of latter. So why bother trying to appease them?

However, most Muslims do not resort to violence and there are religious bigots everywhere from any religions.

I used to think Israel is easier to appease. If only Hamas stop killing the Israelis, then things will go right again.

Well, I was wrong.

Here is what I read in http://www.hoffmania.com/blog/2006/07/total_confusion.html

The portrayal of Israel as the innocent victim in the Gaza conflict is hard to square with the death toll in the months leading up to the current crisis; between September 2005 and June 2006, 144 Palestinians in Gaza were killed by Israeli forces, according to a list compiled by the Israeli human rights group B’tselem; 29 of those killed were children. During the same period, no Israelis were killed as a result of violence from Gaza.

I used to admire US and Israel because they fight terrorists. Terrorists kill civilians. Terrorists damage economy. Now, who are killing civilians? The Israel.

Israel may bitch about 2 of their soldiers that got kidnapped. However, killing thousands of civilians in retaliation is highly disproportionate. For all we know, Israel can always strike Lebanon again when a Lebanese give a bad hair cut to a Jew.

I watch the news carefully. What have Hamas did to Israel since they got elected? Hamas make a 1 sided cease fire. For months. Looks like Israel try to keep pocking them under the pretext that Hamas is so evil and need to be destroyed. Israel seized tax money taken from Palestinians, for example. That’s stealing folks.

All this time, the opponents of Israel are often really really fucked up country. Iraq, for example, is lead by dictators. Most of us would look the other way around if Israel attacks Iran, or the communist North Korea. Perhaps the people there will be better of if they lost the war because that means they’ll effectively be liberated.

I am surprised when I found out that Lebanon is a free market country.

Finally, I used to admire the Jews because I thought they’re very smart. Well, my country just got 4 gold medals in International Olympiad. What do the Israel got? Nothing. If we properly align our interests to productivity, we can be richer than the Jews. They’ve became more like the Nazi, while the rest of us have became more of what they used to be.